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2007-10-02 19:49
by Jon Weisman

The second episode of Reaper ... the ongoing flux of House ... the replacement pilot of Cavemen ... the unanticipated debut Carpoolers ... it's a festival!

Update: I'm sorry, but I still don't hate Cavemen like I'm supposed to. The laughs don't come right away and it's occasionally dumb, but it continues to be pleasingly dry to me, and what can I say? It appeals to me in some strange way. For all the talk of it being a ripoff of the Geico ads, it feels very original to me. They have made one character change since the original pilot, rethinking the lead caveman's brother, and it has only helped.

The show would probably be better served running on Comedy Central at 10:30 p.m. than ABC at 8, and I certainly don't expect the masses to take it in. But I continue to say it's an underrated show.

For a conflicting review from a critic I usually agree with, read Brian Lowry's take at Variety. He calls Cavemen a "bland exercise," but I think much more thought has been put into it than that.

Update 2: This mini-review by James Poniewozik of Time splits the difference between myself and Lowry, making some good points. Cavemen definitely lost some edge from the original pilot. However, I think the plotting was better in the new pilot.

2007-10-02 20:46:47
1.   jtrichey
Became a big fan of Reaper tonight. It is pretty amusing stuff. Occasionally laugh out loud, but mostly the dry inside chuckle, if you know what I mean. Some of the funniest, yet realistic banter I've seen on TV. I don't necessarily need the super powered lost souls, but all in all, I enjoy it
2007-10-02 21:03:20
2.   mintxcore
I don't get Carpoolers. It's like the not-as-good version of Andy Barker PI. Totally middle of the road in a bad way.

I'm giving Reaper another shot right now. The dudes sidekick is so insanely Kevin Smith haha

2007-10-02 22:07:19
3.   Bob Timmermann
"Where did you send it?"
"On a truck to Delaware."
"Don't you think the Devil will find it? He is all-knowing."
"Can you find Delaware on a map?"
2007-10-03 00:05:20
4.   overkill94
I had high hopes for Reaper after the buzz it was getting, but the best recommendation I can give it is that I'll still watch next week's episodes. The comedy is mediocre, the dialogue is pretty weak, and the sci-fi stuff is laughable in a bad way.

It could be that I pretty much never start watching shows from the beginning so I never have to deal with the growing pains, but I'm not sure how much longer I can stick with Reaper.

2007-10-03 08:53:34
5.   mintxcore
I tried to give Reaper another shot, but it just does not keep my attention for an hour. I got through Cavemen! But not Carpoolers.
2007-10-03 09:11:12
6.   blue22
I actually liked Cavemen. It really grew on me. The writing was dry and clever. I'll definitely give it another go. Too bad the best guy from the commercials (he of the "existential meltdown") isn't on the show, but I thought the other guys were pretty good. We'll see if they can keep it up, but episode 1 was a thumbs up.

"Keep you penis in your genus." That's gold!

2007-10-03 09:20:21
7.   blue22
Jon, when was the original pilot for Cavemen on? I thought last night was the series premier.
2007-10-03 09:27:33
8.   Jon Weisman
7 - It wasn't on. They sent out the original pilot as a screener to the press, then decided to come up with a new pilot in light of all the negative reaction it provoked.
2007-10-03 09:42:47
9.   blue22
8 - Was last night's an improvement?

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