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Tuesday Night Open Chat
2007-09-25 16:41
by Jon Weisman

Check out Reaper, even if it's not on your radar, and record the cast-shufflin' House.

2007-09-25 17:17:34
1.   Jon Weisman
I did watch the Simpsons Sunday - it's back to its mediocre pre-movie status. Haven't watched King yet.
2007-09-25 17:18:47
2.   jasonungar07
Did you guys see CSI Miami. Horatio has a ...oh nevermind, who watches that show apparently alot of people but no one I know.
2007-09-25 17:20:10
3.   ToyCannon
I thought King yet was awesome but now I can't remember if I was watching a repeat or the Sunday show. Anyway if it is about college football, it is awesome.
2007-09-25 17:21:21
4.   ToyCannon
So no one saw Bang last night? I'd love a product where you can mute the laugh track. They seem to get more annoying every year.
2007-09-25 17:21:31
5.   trainwreck
It was the college football one.

Simpsons was terrible. How can you completely ruin having Stephen Colbert as a guest voice.

2007-09-25 17:24:11
6.   trainwreck
I am looking forward to Reaper tonight.

The show has a lot going for it. Kevin Smith directing. Missy Peregrym is gorgeous. And anything with Ray Wise as the devil should be good.

2007-09-25 17:32:38
7.   ToyCannon
Simpsons was bad, but I liked the movie so they get a pass.
2007-09-25 18:17:35
8.   Bob Timmermann
I liked "The Simpsons." It had sort of a Wes Anderson feel to it.
2007-09-25 18:19:57
9.   Benaiah
Chuck was alright, but I hated that sidekick character and in general it just felt a little contrived. Considering how much I liked the first season of The OC way back when, I am surprised how little this one did for me because it seems like an action-adventure spinoff.

Heroes was miserable. Considering the trainwreck that was last season's finale, I have seriously lost faith in the show as a whole. Hopefully it gets back on track soon.

I love Wes Anderson, but I don't think it is a hip thing. If it doesn't speak to you then fine, I can definitely see that, but it really gets me where I itch. Despite the somewhat lukewarm reviews for "The Darjeeling Express" I am expected it to be wonderful, especially upon repeat viewings.

Whew, finally caught up with everything from last night.

2007-09-25 18:25:42
10.   Bob Timmermann
My beef about Wes Anderson stems from coworkers making me feel bad because I didn't like "Rushmore."

I'm a very insecure person.

2007-09-25 18:41:57
11.   trainwreck
I did not even realize Heroes was back on.
2007-09-25 19:00:14
12.   Benaiah
10 - We all are, supposedly.
2007-09-25 19:10:14
13.   Bob Timmermann
I'm only insecure about my taste in movies.
2007-09-25 19:56:55
14.   Benaiah
13 - I am only not insecure in my taste in movies. Pretty much the rock I am building my life upon. Check back in a few years and I will tell you how that is going.
2007-09-25 21:11:42
15.   overkill94
Since it seems like we're backtracking to Sunday a bit, did anyone else see the Family Guy "Star Wars" episode? I've pretty much given up on the show and that episode...did nothing to change my mind. Seth MacFarlane has just plain run out of ideas. I was one of the people clamoring for them to bring the show back after three great seasons, but now I kinda wish they would've been left in cult classic status.
2007-09-25 21:29:47
16.   Bob Timmermann
Kline got Giles the Elder. And now Brian Wilson is facing Hairston.
2007-09-25 21:30:11
17.   Bob Timmermann
Whoops too many windows open.
2007-09-25 21:46:03
18.   Greg Brock
15 I actually liked the Star Wars FG. Sure, it was "throw a million jokes against a wall", but some of them were actually quite funny. Certainly better than almost every episode in the FG comeback era.
2007-09-25 22:03:25
19.   mintxcore
Hrm. I don't know how I feel about Reaper. It kinda bored me and the acting didn't seem very good and it felt very, very long. I was really excited for this show but I don't know what happened!
2007-09-26 12:28:35
20.   trainwreck
I only got to see half of Reaper, so hard for me to comment.

Sadly, the ratings were pretty bad for it. Hopefully it gains some steam, because my friends were saying how they heard it was good.

2007-09-26 13:27:02
21.   Jon Weisman
Reaper did better than Veronica Mars was doing in the ratings. So from that standpoint, I wouldn't worry about it. CW will stick with it at least this year.
2007-09-26 14:51:26
22.   D4P
I find myself kind of liking Tell Me You Love Me. It bugs me in some ways, but I appreciate how they don't feel compelled to resolve the characters' problems nicely or give them easy outs. You don't get the impression that everyone will necessarily live happily ever after, which is kind of refreshing. Plus, like I said before, the communication challenges the couples face resonate with me.

Question: Why isn't Dave "interested" in Katie?

1. ED
2. Dave sees her as a mother, not as a lover
3. Dave is gay
4. Other

2007-09-26 14:56:28
23.   Jon Weisman
22 -

5. Dave is at war with himself and can't be with someone who wants to be with him
6. She isn't attractive to him any more

2007-09-26 15:14:25
24.   jasonungar07
There is hope...

For the record, Bateman has yet to dismiss the possibility of an Arrested Development return. "That is certainly on the table and not dead yet; I just don't know when the right time will be," he says, adding that the surging careers of fellow castmembers Cera and Arnett could actually help the effort. "Maybe by virtue of us doing well, it makes the idea of a re-visit -- whether it be in a movie or whatever -- a little bit more of a viable scenario. Because if none of us had careers after Arrested Development, it would kind of reek of 'Oh, these poor people couldn't let it go,' or 'They need to make a check.'"

2007-09-26 15:20:47
25.   Jon Weisman
Bateman is great in Juno. It's like getting to explore Michael Bluth beyond A.D.
2007-09-26 15:27:03
26.   D4P
I meant for your 6 to be subsumed by my 2 .
2007-09-26 15:34:49
27.   D4P
Young couple:

I liked the fact that the guy wasn't in the entire episode, and they went the entire episode without him ever answering her calls. But I'm a little confused about something. Wasn't she the one who more or less called off the wedding? They're acting now as if he broke up with her, rather than the other way around.

Couple trying to have kids:

The guy is growing on me. At first, I thought he was overly contrived and annoying. But I feel like he has some "real" character traits that I appreciate. I can identify with some of his frustrations, not about getting pregnant, but just in communicating with his wife. The wife is still annoying. I don't really like much about her. I also don't really think they want kids per se. They seem to like the idea of getting pregnant, since all of their friends are doing it. But I don't think they'll really like having their lives disrupted, nor their pristine modern home destroyed.

Couple with kids:

Still interesting. Obviously like each other, but the romance is gone. Why? I don't know. Kids obviously had something to do with it, but it might have happened anyway. The daughter is annoying. Too mature and not very realistic. Too many shows do that to kids.

Senior couple:

A little too idyllic. And who is the guy she has been talking to on the phone? Someone she had an affair with or something? Are we supposed to know that, or is it still something that will be revealed?

2007-09-26 15:40:16
28.   Jon Weisman
27 - Young couple:

I'm not sure this is meant to be a young couple story or not. It might just be her story. In any case, she called off the wedding because he wouldn't commit to her, not because she didn't love him.

2007-09-26 15:44:34
29.   D4P
It would be an interesting turn if the story were really just about her and the guy was off the show. You don't see stuff like that very often. I understand that she still loves him, but it's still a little strange that she's so desperate to contact him and he's so opposed to letting her.

So, are you going to keep watching the show?

2007-09-26 15:46:14
30.   Jon Weisman
I'm currently planning to watch next week, but it's on probation. I don't mind the stories, but last week had a big decline in insight for me.
2007-09-26 15:47:13
31.   Jon Weisman
29 - I think she's hoping that he would come around and convince her not to be scared to marry him. I think she's caught off guard by the fact that he's withdrawing. It's all about hand.
2007-09-26 15:56:53
32.   D4P
Yeah. He's got hand. And he's gonna need it.

Actually, he probably won't, which I suppose is part of the problem in the first place.

Anyway, I didn't notice that last week's episode was any worse than the first two. I thought the scene in the bedroom where Dave tells Katie he loves her (Tell Me You Love Me!) and Katie says "But what, Dave?" and he couldn't answer her was very well conceived. It was sage of her to ask the question in the first place, and he was clearly put on the spot.

2007-09-26 16:09:34
33.   Jon Weisman
32 - I was so put off by the endless promoting of TiVo by that point that it sort of lost it for me. And though the scene was well-conceived, as you say, it really wasn't any kind of evolution from them sitting outside on the back porch in the pilot. They hit those same beats.

We know he loves her, but that something else is nagging. We've known this from their first scene together. That climax in the most recent episode offered nothing new, in my view.

2007-09-26 16:15:44
34.   Jon Weisman
33 - Which is not to say I don't buy them running into the same brick wall over and over again. Just that I don't need to see it.
2007-09-27 13:58:18
35.   dzzrtRatt
15 I yielded the living room to my son so he could watch "Family Guy," which I loathe. Praise be to God, he told me he hated it, the show has lost it, he's never watching it again.

Yay. Long past time for that show to go back to the late-night stoned college student TV channel.

2007-09-27 18:09:10
36.   DXMachina
I liked Reaper well enough, even if it is almost identical in set up to Chuck, but then I liked Chuck, too. I just don't understand how they're going to keep Chuck going once all that information in his head becomes outdated. Like in three weeks or so.

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