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Veronica Mars Draws a Soft 20
2006-11-17 13:23
by Jon Weisman

The CW extended its order of Veronica Mars episodes this season to 20, short of the 22 typical of a full season, according to Josef Adalian of Variety:

CW only committed to 13 episodes of "Mars" last May when the net set its first-ever fall schedule. Its decision to add seven episodes to that order means the skein will live on -- but that prospects for a fourth season remain hazy if ratings don't pick up in the second half of the season.

Despite having a new and improved lead-in from ex-WB skein "Gilmore Girls," "Mars" has done little to improve its ratings this season, growing a scant 5% among the CW-friendly women 18-34 aud.

A fourth season of "Mars" is critical to producer Warner Bros. TV, since the studio needs to wrap a critical mass of episodes to ensure any sort of life for the show in syndication.

2006-11-17 15:14:50
1.   Bob Timmermann
You know a long time ago, this show and I used to be friends.
2006-11-17 15:30:06
2.   Jon Weisman
I thought you were going to say you could remember how the music used to make you smile.
2006-11-17 16:48:19
3.   the OZ
I remember reading recently that Gilmore Girls has seen a substantial (15-20%) drop in viewership since the move to the new network.

I don't know what the lead-in was before GG, but it's not as big a lead-in as it once was.

2006-11-17 20:55:10
4.   Voxter
3 - I think I read the same thing, but I can't remember where now. Well, there's good reason. The show, which tanked pretty hard last season, has gotten even worse. It's a shame, cos it was such a good show in its heyday. For what it's worth, the lead-in used to be "America's Next Top Model", which was UPN's most popular show, but a terrible lead-in for "Veronica Mars" for about fifteen different reasons.

1 - I started poorly (quality-wise) this season, but the last two episodes have really been up to snuff. The theme song may be slightly altered, but it's still a good show.

I'm still not sure that this show is really designed for the women 18-34 demographic; I mean, if you'll permit me a double negative, it's not not designed for them, but I think, if it were to attain mass appeal, it would actually be among men, not women, 18-34. Men want to be with Veronica and they want to be Logan. And the show's a little bloody-minded for the traditional female market. I don't know. I may be pulling this out of my butt; but all the people I know who watch the show are guys between 23 and 29. In the small study group that is my friends, "Veronica Mars" definitely does better amongst the men than the women.

2006-11-17 22:20:19
5.   Jon Weisman
Men want to be Logan???? Not this man.

I agree, though. I think it's a show for guys.

2006-11-18 02:03:45
6.   Voxter
5 - I guess you're right. I don't want Logan's abusive father or dead mother. I just want his perfect body, his money, and his girlfriend.

Now that I think about it, I'll take my life over his.

2006-11-18 11:02:35
7.   Bob Timmermann
I think most men wish that a woman like Veronica would be attracted to a guy who IS NOT Logan. You would think she would be attracted to a guy who is a lot smarter.
2006-11-22 17:03:56
8.   Greg Brock

I agree with you about the mythology arc. No thanks. For the most part they were lame past the fourth season, though Duane Barry and Ascension were two of the show's greatest episodes. I am a much bigger fan of the Monster of the Week (MOTW) episodes.

Just thinking of a few of my favorites:

Jose Chung
The Host
Pusher and Kitsunegari
Unruhue (on last night!)
Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose
Small Potatoes.

That's off the top of my head.

2006-11-22 20:37:29
9.   CanuckDodger
It looks like we have similar tastes in X-Files episodes. You have named some of my favorites, and here are others I would add to a "Best Of..." list:

Beyond The Sea
Die Hand Die Verletzt
War Of The Coprophages
Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man
Post-Modern Prometheus
Bad Blood
Dreamland, Parts 1 & 2
Je Souhaite
Sunshine Days

2006-11-22 23:00:07
10.   Greg Brock
9 I am killing myself for not listing:

War of the Coprophages
Musings of a CSM
Je Souhaite
Die Hand Die Verletzt
Dreamland 1&2

I like all the ones you mention a whole lot, but the ones I just listed should have been on my list.

Other good ones:
Jesse L. Martin plays the Negro Leaguer one!

Okay, Episodes I hated:
Fresh Bones
All the mytharc crap
Beyond the Sea (sorry)
The one in the old folks home
The one where they're stuck in the giant fungus
Hell Money
The one with the Native American shapeshifter

2006-11-22 23:03:56
11.   Greg Brock
4-D is probably the best Doggett episode.

The one with the creepy FBI student who tells him who killed is son is pretty good.

I hated Annabeth Gish trapped in the coma episode.

2006-11-22 23:07:03
12.   Greg Brock
For creepiness, Home is the best.

For Funniness, Coprophages, Quagmire, Humbug

Quotability: Quagmire

2006-11-22 23:07:19
13.   Greg Brock
Seriously, I can do this all day.
2006-12-02 02:01:30
14.   Greg Brock

I hate "Beyond the Sea." I hate the episode with a passion. Brad Dourif, the creepy guy, plays the evil man in Exorcist III, which is a fantastic movie and horribly underrated. George C. Scott is fantasitc, Jason Miller comes back as Father Karras, and Brad Dourif does a great job as Legion. To me, Beyond the sea is nothing compared to Exorcist III.

2006-12-02 02:20:43
15.   CanuckDodger

Uh, I'm not sure I follow. I have not seen Exorcist III, nor know anything about it, so I am not getting why your opinion of the movie colors your opinion of "Beyond The Sea." Are you saying that the episode just rips-off the movie? Anyway, just judging The X-Files episode on its own terms (which is how I did judge it), it was really the first exploration, in the series, of Scully's innermost feelings, as she tried to cope with the loss of her father, and the episode was the first hint of Scully really opening her mind to the possibility that science might not be able to answer every mystery. Brad Dourif's acting was of high quality, and I was moved that his horrible character could be so fearful of dying because he fears facing the souls of his murder victims. I like the cinematography, the direction. I even like the song "Beyond The Sea" and how it was used in the episode, with the sea representing the dividing line between the living and dead.

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